how to filter messages from Google

Post by flibbertigibbet
I've noticed that a lot of the nonsense posts are from Google groups and was
wondering how to go about making a filter to avoid them cluttering up my
favourite newsgroups.

Kill Filter
@googlegroups.com

KenW

flibbertigibbet

2023-01-31 18:13:41 UTC

Post by KenW
@googlegroups.com

Great. Thank you. I didn't realise it was that simple. I've made a filter
with that and another from the instruction Ralph pointed me towards.

Ralph Fox

2023-01-31 17:41:46 UTC

Post by flibbertigibbet
I've noticed that a lot of the nonsense posts are from Google groups and was
wondering how to go about making a filter to avoid them cluttering up my
favourite newsgroups.
User-Agent: ForteAgent/7.20.32.1218

For how to filter Google Groups in your version of Agent:
1. Go to the Usenet Improvement Project website at
<http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/>.
2. Click on "[Free]Agent" in the left column.
3. Scroll down to, "Agent Beginning With Release 5.00/32.1170".

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flibbertigibbet

2023-01-31 18:11:08 UTC

1. Go to the Usenet Improvement Project website at
<http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/>.
2. Click on "[Free]Agent" in the left column.
3. Scroll down to, "Agent Beginning With Release 5.00/32.1170".

Thank you. I set up the filter but it didn't get rid of the nonsense.
Another thing I've noticed about these nuisance posters is that they
cross post to 6 or more newsgroups to reach a bigger readership. Is
there a way that I can get Agent to filter messages that have been
cross posted to, say, 2 or more groups?

KenW

2023-01-31 19:40:07 UTC

In the kill filter there is a line >Scope Global or a group folder.

I filter Google because I have NEVER seen any good posts always S**T

KenW

s***@invalid.com

2023-01-31 23:47:16 UTC

On Tue, 31 Jan 2023 12:40:07 -0700, KenW

Post by KenW

In the kill filter there is a line >Scope Global or a group folder.
I filter Google because I have NEVER seen any good posts always S**T

+10

Post by KenW
KenW

Ken Blake

2023-02-01 15:33:42 UTC

Post by KenW

In the kill filter there is a line >Scope Global or a group folder.
I filter Google because I have NEVER seen any good posts always S**T

I wish that I could agree with you and also filter GG, but I can't.
I've seen many good posters who inexplicably insist on using GG.

s***@invalid.com

2023-01-31 23:39:57 UTC

What am I not understanding? I'm using Agent 1.93 and have no problem
filtering Google authors with -
Author: Google

s***@invalid.com

2023-01-31 23:41:51 UTC

Post by s***@invalid.com

What am I not understanding? I'm using Agent 1.93 and have no problem
filtering Google authors with -
Author: Google

Forgot to mention to also click on the Lower Case menu choice. This
will filter on upper or lower case.

Ralph Fox

2023-02-01 05:16:59 UTC

Thank you. I set up the filter but it didn't get rid of the nonsense.

It seems that Google Groups message-IDs have changed since the Usenet
Improvement Project website was last updated. Use this instead:

message-id: {@googlegroups\.com}

The Usenet Improvement Project used to be maintained by the late
Blinky the Shark. With his passing, the site is now an archive of
what used to be.

Post by flibbertigibbet
Another thing I've noticed about these nuisance posters is that they
cross post to 6 or more newsgroups to reach a bigger readership. Is
there a way that I can get Agent to filter messages that have been
cross posted to, say, 2 or more groups?

Yes, you can. Take a look at the Agent 7.2 options at
Folder >> Default Properties >> Receiving Messages >> Usenet Crossposting

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Ralph

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flibbertigibbet

2023-02-01 09:34:31 UTC

Thank you. I set up the filter but it didn't get rid of the nonsense.

It seems that Google Groups message-IDs have changed since the Usenet

Thank you very much. Done.

Post by Ralph Fox
The Usenet Improvement Project used to be maintained by the late
Blinky the Shark. With his passing, the site is now an archive of
what used to be.

I didn't know the person. I'm glad his efforts are still being of good
use.

Yes, you can. Take a look at the Agent 7.2 options at
Folder >> Default Properties >> Receiving Messages >> Usenet Crossposting

Excellent. Thanks for this. I've done both: created a filter and toggled
a few options there to hopefully get rid of some of the aggravating
posters messing up newsgroups.

Opinicus

2023-02-02 05:07:17 UTC

Post by Ralph Fox
It seems that Google Groups message-IDs have changed since the Usenet

Thanks for that heads-up and tip Ralph. Could you explain the syntax
of {@googlegroups\.com} please?

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The people your parents warned you about

Barry Schwarz

2023-02-02 05:30:51 UTC

On Thu, 02 Feb 2023 08:07:17 +0300, Opinicus

Post by Opinicus

Post by Ralph Fox
It seems that Google Groups message-IDs have changed since the Usenet

Thanks for that heads-up and tip Ralph. Could you explain the syntax

The { and } indicate that this is a regular expression.

The \ specifies that the following character is a literal and not one
the expression processor should evaluate. The period that follows the
\ will be treated as a period. Without the backslash, the period
would be treated as a wildcard which could be satisfied by any
character.

All the other characters are literals and represent themselves.

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Opinicus

2023-02-02 07:14:24 UTC

Post by Barry Schwarz

Post by Opinicus
Thanks for that heads-up and tip Ralph. Could you explain the syntax

The { and } indicate that this is a regular expression.
The \ specifies that the following character is a literal and not one
the expression processor should evaluate. The period that follows the
\ will be treated as a period. Without the backslash, the period
would be treated as a wildcard which could be satisfied by any
character.
All the other characters are literals and represent themselves.

Thanks for that. I keep having to remind myself what "\" does.

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Bob
The people your parents warned you about

pyotr filipivich

2023-10-28 16:54:06 UTC

Post by flibbertigibbet
User-Agent: ForteAgent/7.20.32.1218

I'm using 3.3. I suspect that the following is not applicable.
If so, considering recent posts, how would I upgrade to a more
recent version?

Post by Ralph Fox
1. Go to the Usenet Improvement Project website at
<http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/>.
2. Click on "[Free]Agent" in the left column.
3. Scroll down to, "Agent Beginning With Release 5.00/32.1170".

Thank you. I set up the filter but it didn't get rid of the nonsense.

It seems that Google Groups message-IDs have changed since the Usenet
The Usenet Improvement Project used to be maintained by the late
Blinky the Shark. With his passing, the site is now an archive of
what used to be.

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Ken Blake

2023-01-31 18:30:47 UTC

Post by flibbertigibbet
I've noticed that a lot of the nonsense posts are from Google groups and was

Yes.

Post by flibbertigibbet
wondering how to go about making a filter to avoid them cluttering up my
favourite newsgroups.

Others have already told you how, but let me point out that doing that
is a bad mistake in almost every newsgroup. Yes, doing so will filter
out a lot of the nonsense posts, but it will also filter out a lot of
the useful, good posts. I strongly recommend against it.

flibbertigibbet

2023-01-31 18:43:10 UTC

Post by flibbertigibbet
I've noticed that a lot of the nonsense posts are from Google groups and was

Yes.

Post by flibbertigibbet
wondering how to go about making a filter to avoid them cluttering up my
favourite newsgroups.

Right. That's a good point you're making there. And because adding
those filter suggestions by Ralph and KenW (above) hasn't removed
the posters' I want I'm going to allow Google Groups back. Thanks.
Now, on to my next query, if you'll allow, I've noticed that the posters
I want to filter out cross post to a lot of groups to aggravate as many
Usenetters as they can. Is there a filter you know of that can filter out
posts that have been cross posted to more than 2 or more groups?
That would be another way of getting where I want.

Ken Blake

2023-01-31 19:13:45 UTC

Post by flibbertigibbet
I've noticed that a lot of the nonsense posts are from Google groups and was

Yes.

Post by flibbertigibbet
wondering how to go about making a filter to avoid them cluttering up my
favourite newsgroups.

Right. That's a good point you're making there. And because adding
those filter suggestions by Ralph and KenW (above) hasn't removed
the posters' I want I'm going to allow Google Groups back. Thanks.

You're welcome. Glad to help.

Post by flibbertigibbet
Now, on to my next query, if you'll allow, I've noticed that the posters
I want to filter out cross post to a lot of groups to aggravate as many
Usenetters as they can. Is there a filter you know of that can filter out
posts that have been cross posted to more than 2 or more groups?

Unless I'm thinking of Thunderbird, which I used to use, I think so.
But I can't remember how to do it, and a quick search didn't find it.
Wait for someone else to tell you how.

Post by flibbertigibbet
That would be another way of getting where I want.

s***@invalid.com

2023-01-31 23:46:26 UTC

Post by flibbertigibbet
I've noticed that a lot of the nonsense posts are from Google groups and was

Yes.

Post by flibbertigibbet
wondering how to go about making a filter to avoid them cluttering up my
favourite newsgroups.

The Agent I have, 1.93 will only filter out a crossposted message if
you have already read the message in another group to which it was
crossposted.

Lane

2023-01-31 20:49:33 UTC

Post by Ken Blake
Others have already told you how, but let me point out that doing that
is a bad mistake in almost every newsgroup. Yes, doing so will filter
out a lot of the nonsense posts, but it will also filter out a lot of
the useful, good posts. I strongly recommend against it.

Just set up another filter with a higher priority to handle the
exceptions, i.e. the GG posters whose posts you want to see. A little
extra trouble, but well worth it, in my opinion.

I've used this approach for many years and would strongly recommend it
for lowering the signal-to-noise ratio.

Yes, it works in a.u.e. ;-)

Ken Blake

2023-02-01 15:38:49 UTC

Post by Lane

Just set up another filter with a higher priority to handle the
exceptions, i.e. the GG posters whose posts you want to see. A little
extra trouble, but well worth it, in my opinion.

I started to do that a month or two ago. I gave up and decided against
it for three reasons:

1. I found a *lot* of GG posters whose posts I want to see.

2. Even though I found a lot, I probably missed a few.

3.The most important reason: I would miss valuable post from new GG
posters.

Post by Lane
I've used this approach for many years and would strongly recommend it
for lowering the signal-to-noise ratio.
Yes, it works in a.u.e. ;-)

s***@invalid.com

2023-01-31 23:43:38 UTC